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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #1199
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Tue, 8 Nov 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1199
-
- Today's Topics:
- $5 or $6 for VE's? Think again... (2 msgs)
- 0 to Extra
- 6LQ6's
- Anyone using an ATV transceiver from PC electronics?
- ARLB089 Action on digital HF
- Calling anyone in Singapore for some help
- CHIPSWITCH upgrade for HR2600 ?
- Dx Qsl for oe5wll
- FCC new license processing time...
- Hello
- How good is 10 db 2 meter yagi?
- ICOM Repeater Questions
- Indiana University Amateur Radio Club Web Page
- Maws Coad and Spelinge
- Morse Code and Age?
- Motorola Amateur Group????
- Recommendations for logging program for IBM PC compatibles?
- Routing Coax into House
- Routing Coax into house?
- switching power supplies, why or why not?
- The book:Low Band DXing by ON4UN
- Wanted: quality code practice audio
- wanted control program for yaesu ft 747,757,767
-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 04:51:24 GMT
- From: steve@vigra.com (Steve Haehnichen)
- Subject: $5 or $6 for VE's? Think again...
-
- -=> On Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:26:24 GMT, dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) said:
-
- > ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
- >> At a standard exam, we'd have maybe 6 examinees, and 3 or 4 VE's, meaning
- >> I'd get a dozen donuts or bagels and cream cheese, and maybe a half-gallon
- >> of OJ, so that's $5.00 for the bagels & CC, and maybe $1.75 for the OJ,
- >> leaving $5.25 of the original $12.00 from the examinees.
-
- > Are you saying that some of the exam fee went to paying for refreshments?
-
- When I went to take my exam a few months ago from the local SANDARC
- group here in San Diego CA, I kept waiting to pay somebody, but it
- turns out that they never charge. Just their policy I guess.
-
- They provided the test materials, postage, and manpower all for free
- without even mentioning any costs they might have. Fine folks. They
- seemed entirely motivated by the passing grades they got to sign
- off. :-)
-
- Anyway, if I ever go back to take another test, I think it would be
- cool to bring bagels or doughnuts or something to say thanks. There
- weren't any refreshments there last time, and I was there for a few
- hours.
-
- -Steve
-
- Steve Haehnichen Vigra, Inc. San Diego, CA
- steve@vigra.com (619) 597-7080 x116 Fax: (619) 597-7094
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Nov 94 16:55:47 GMT
- From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.rockwell.COM
- Subject: $5 or $6 for VE's? Think again...
-
- as i understand the ARRL VEC rules -- everything will go to the VEC unless you
- have a true need to hold back some funds...our group has been acquiring koss
- IR headsets this way...next will probably be a replacement tape recorder..
-
- but none of it goes to anything but real expenses that are documented.
-
- our 10th anniversary is coming up in december, and i know the snacks and
- drinks aren't going to come from exam fees for that one (if the school will
- grant us special dispensation to have food in a classroom....i think they
- will).
-
- bill wb9ivr
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 7 Nov 1994 16:56:44 GMT
- From: mwhite@mitre.org (Michael White)
- Subject: 0 to Extra
-
- Dale Piedfort wrote:
-
- > Steve Griggs now AC6CF took all the written and 20 wpm exams at one
- > sitting...
-
- Wow! AC6CF is my hero! I went from General to Extra in one sitting, and I
- thought *that* was a lot. Good show, Steve!
-
- Mike, N4PDY
- --
- mwhite@mitre.org
-
- My opinions are my own, not my employer's.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:58:30
- From: davidd@nbnet.nb.ca (David Delaney)
- Subject: 6LQ6's
-
- Does anyone know where I can source a supply of good sturdy 6LQ6 sweep tubes?
- They are for my Kenwood linear and it has an appetite for them. There are some
- cheapies on the market but they only last a matter of hours. Thanks, Dave D.
- (davidd@nbnet.nb.ca)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 7 Nov 1994 09:12 CDT
- From: ami9667@venus.tamu.edu (IACOVIDES, ANDREAS MICHAEL)
- Subject: Anyone using an ATV transceiver from PC electronics?
-
- Hi, i need to know what is behind the TX/RX switch of those ATV transceivers.
- Actually i need to know if it's an electromechanical relay or a solid state
- circuit. If anyone knows i would appreciate any help.
-
- Thanks
- Andreas Iacovides 5B4SJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 07 Nov 1994 17:47:41 EST
- From: w1aw@arrl.org
- Subject: ARLB089 Action on digital HF
-
- SB QST @ ARL $ARLB089
- ARLB089 Action on digital HF
-
- ZCZC AG54
- QST de W1AW
- ARRL Bulletin 89 ARLB089
- From ARRL Headquarters
- Newington CT November 8, 1994
- To all radio amateurs
-
- SB QST ARL ARLB089
- ARLB089 Action on digital HF
-
- Actions on digital plan
-
- The ARRL has filed reply comments on FCC PR Docket 94-59, that
- proposes to allow automatic control of digital stations on the HF
- bands under certain specific conditions.
-
- The League said that it shared concerns filed by some amateurs,
- about the possibility of interference to amateurs using other modes,
- and urged the FCC to adopt its original proposal for specific
- subbands and other restrictions.
-
- The ARRL made essentially the same recommendation in its comments on
- the FCC proposal in early October. By that time, the FCC had
- received comments from 15 parties, eight opposed to automatic HF
- control, five supporting the League's proposal for specific
- subbands, and two supporting the ARRL plan but with additional
- provisions for avoiding interference.
-
- The League said in its reply comments on November 1 that since some
- parties suggest no restrictions, while others advocate no changes at
- all at this time, that it, the ARRL, favored a middle course, as it
- originally had proposed (and was the basis of the Notice of Proposed
- Rule Making).
-
- More information was in August, 1994 QST, page 71.
- NNNN
- /EX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:24:00
- From: dlgates@sam.neosoft.com (D. L. Gates)
- Subject: Calling anyone in Singapore for some help
-
- This is a wild stab looking for help in locating someone. I don't have radio
- but thought ham tradition might come to the fore.
-
- Someone I have not seen in ten or twelve years now works in Singapore for an
- organization called Asia Emergency Assistance. Her name is Dr. Sandra Johnson.
- I have exhausted all the WHOIS servers I can find but have been unable to
- identify a possible domain and her e-mail address. Any help would be greatly
- appreciated, via e-mail, please!
-
- ============================================
- D. L. Gates, Ph.D. || Gates-o-Wisdom Software
- 1908 Rampart St., League City, TX 77573-1946
- Custom Database Applications in Microsoft Access
- ============================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:06:35 LOCAL
- From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen)
- Subject: CHIPSWITCH upgrade for HR2600 ?
-
- I missed the beginning of the thread. What does the Chipswitch upgrade do?
-
- -------
- Bob Nielsen, W6SWE
- Tucson, AZ
- nielsen@primenet.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:22:36 -0500
- From: wcoyle@delphi.com
- Subject: Dx Qsl for oe5wll
-
- If anyone knows the QSL route for OE5WLL in Austria, I would
- really be gratefull. Even if it was just an address in an
- overseas callbook.
-
- Tnx
- Wcoyle@delphi.com
- 73
- N3OGH
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Nov 94 22:01:50 GMT
- From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.rockwell.COM
- Subject: FCC new license processing time...
-
- >Since the FCC is getting ready to activate Electronic Filing of FCC Form
- >610 Applications, the time that it is going to take (in early 1995)
- >between testing and license receipt will be just a matter of a few days ..
- >maybe even "hours."
-
- Kewl....now for distributed printing..8)
-
- bill wb9ivr
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 6 Nov 94 16:36:00 -0500
- From: marv.shelton@woodybbs.com (Marv Shelton)
- Subject: Hello
-
- Ds> david wb7tpy
- Ds> Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- Ds> Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602)
- Ds> 451-1165 Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
- Hello Dave,
- I see from the above that we're both still around!
-
- 73's,
- Marv
- Internet: mshelton@cjbbs.com
- ---
- * Origin: The MICRO Rm BBS (908)245-6614 Roselle, NJ (1:107/919)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 7 Nov 1994 16:54:33 GMT
- From: mwhite@mitre.org (Michael White)
- Subject: How good is 10 db 2 meter yagi?
-
- Simon Kwan wrote:
- >... range improvement from a 10 db Yagi
-
- All other things being equal, an extra 10 dB of gain would give you about
- 1.5 S-units greater received signal at the other end. However, your 5/8 was
- already giving you about 3 dBi gain, so you are only getting a net 7 dB
- increase at best; this is about one S-unit. So if you were, say, S4 with
- the 5/8 antenna, with the beam, you would be at about S5. Actual range for
- terrestrial VHF applications is determined principally by terrain, not gain
- and power considerations.
-
- Here's the actual math: Pr = Pt + Gt + Gr -Lp, where Pr= received power
- (dBm), Pt = transmitted power (dBm), Gt = transmitter antenna gain (dB), Gr
- = receiver antenna gain (dB), and Lp = path loss (dB). Lp is in turn made
- up of "free space" path loss plus terrain path loss. Free space path loss
- (dB) = 20 Log F + 20 Log D - 36 (approximately), where F is frequency in
- megahertz and d is distance in miles (I'm doing this from memory, but I
- think it's right. Someone correct me if I got it wrong). Terrain loss is
- highly site specific, and depends on the dielectric properties of the earth
- on your area, and the height and shape of the terrain between the
- transmitter and receiver.
-
- Good luck.
- Mike, N4PDY
- --
- mwhite@mitre.org
-
- My opinions are my own, not my employer's.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:24:51 GMT
- From: marcbg@metronet.com (Marc B. Grant)
- Subject: ICOM Repeater Questions
-
- In article <39h86l$74g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, fk192@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
- (John J. Udvari) wrote:
-
- > Anyone out there have an ICOM uhf repeater (IC-RP4020)? A
- > local group has one and is looking to add on other freatues. At
- > present it is stock out of the box. Anybody added a different
- > controler? Remote inputs? what have you. Need some ideas from
- > others who have this repeater.
-
- We've got an ICOM 2 meter repeater on our company club machine. I have
- not been particularly happy with its performance, it doesn't have the
- world's greatest front end. I'm use to Motorola machines or GE radios.
- The ICOM is fair at best. If you're in a low RF noise environment, it
- probably will be OK.
-
- As for interfacing to another controller, ours is interfaced to an ACC
- RC850. Not too difficult, just a few wires and then tweaking some audio
- levels.
-
- There are alot of other options for 440 repeaters. Perhaps one of the
- best is to get a GE mobile radio or Motorola Micor for UHF and convert it
- to a repeater. If you don't have someone technically inclined in your
- group enough to do that, then take a look at Hamtronics, a company out of
- NY. I know several groups that are pleased with their repeaters and they
- cost A LOT less than the ICOM machines, and they have better customer
- support. They're listed each month in QST.
-
- --
- Marc B. Grant
- marcbg@metronet.com
- Amateur Radio N5MEI
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:29:15 GMT
- From: dbasinge@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Mike Basinger)
- Subject: Indiana University Amateur Radio Club Web Page
-
- In case you are interested...
-
- Please check out the Indiana University Amateur Radio Club Web Page.
-
- http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~k9iu/
-
- It has information about the campus club here at Indiana University.
-
- 73,
- Mike
-
- --
- Mike Basinger [N9YYO]
- dbasinge@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
- dbasinge@indiana.edu (BinHex & MIME accepted)
- "Not speaking for Indiana University"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 09:31:41 GMT
- From: dstock@hpqmdla.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton)
- Subject: Maws Coad and Spelinge
-
- wcoyle@delphi.com wrote:
-
- : Let me tell you something, at least these people have the GUTS
- : to admit how they feal, and don't bow down to some crap that
- : they have to be nice to everyone who comes along. The bottom
- : line is everyone is different and we will always have
- : differences, and at least some people will stand up for what
- : they believe.
-
- Derek certainly had the guts to state his feelings. He certainly has
- not bowed down to any expectation that he has to be nice to everyone.
-
- Have you considered the possibility that he was not insulting in order
- to create humour, but used humour as a tool in winding some people up?
-
- I'm glad that people are different, it makes the world a more
- interesting place. As long as people can tolerate the existance of
- different people, those differences can be great strengths. People like
- Derek who stir people up are important as sometimes they stir people
- into examining themselves from a new perspective.
-
- Derek's quite a decent bloke, but he does tease people. You can tease
- him back and make him think about himself. Humour is probably the most
- powerful weapon possible. Hitler was not much angered by successful
- allied commanders compared to how Chaplin in his parody "The Great
- Dictator" got to him, according to a historian friend. I don't think
- that anything not tipped with humour will get past Derek's defences,
- he's a pretty hardened cookie :-)
-
- Cheers
- David GM4ZNX
-
-
-
-
-
-
- :
- : I'll tell you straight out; My spelling aint so hot, I'm a
- : member of the NRA, and I (in all honesty)am not to fond of gay
- : people. In other words, you insulted me, I don't appreciate
- : it, and for all I care, you and your liberal bullshit can rot
- : in hell .
- :
- : Oh, by the way, get off your high horse, anyone who thinks they
- : are "very intelligent" usually is an idiot (as proved by your
- : post).
- :
- : And at least I've got the BALLS to say it (which is a lot less
- : I can say for most folks)
- : W.coyle@Delphi.com
- : N3OGH
- :
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Nov 1994 13:33:14 -0800
- From: arthurc@crl.com (Arthur Chandler)
- Subject: Morse Code and Age?
-
- Is it tougher to learn Morse code when you're ...um.... more mature?
- :<) In other words, do younger folks have an edge when trying to learn
- CW -- especially at the faster speeds? Or do you think that, given equal
- desire, someone 60 could learn 13 wpm or 20 wpm just as fast an an 18
- year old?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Nov 94 21:39:51 GMT
- From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.rockwell.COM
- Subject: Motorola Amateur Group????
-
- > I could never understand why Motorola shunned the Amateur market...
- >Lord knows there's enough of their equipment that's been modified for HAM
- >use... Then again, could be the cost. ;-)
- >73 de N9WYS
-
- there's effectively no amateur market when you look at the size of other
- markets --- look at the number of cell radiophones sold in your town this
- month vs the number of new hams nationwide this year and i'll bet the cell
- radiophones come out on top.
-
- plus it seems you can't bring in an amateur product w/o lots and lots of
- customer support -- it's almost a surprise that packet goes as well as it does
- given that there's no standard interface between the radio and the TNC that
- would let you usually use a one-size-fits-all cable...
-
- bill wb9ivr
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Nov 1994 15:55:01 GMT
- From: djenkins@jetson.uh.edu (David Jenkins)
- Subject: Recommendations for logging program for IBM PC compatibles?
-
- Can anyone point me to review of free or fee logging programs for Intel
- based PCs?
-
- TIA and 73
-
- David F. Jenkins
- Decision and Information Sciences
- University of Houston
- KC5JRR
-
- ut autopatch)?
-
- Thanks
-
- -Jamie, N1RHC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 19:37:34 GMT
- From: jyoungberg@draper.com (James W. Youngberg)
- Subject: Routing Coax into House
-
- I've used drier vents in the last two houses I've lived in. The shroud makes
- a good rain hood. (Stuff the open space with foam to keep the varmints out.)
- Good, professional appearance offends few and limits the damage to the house's
- resale value.
-
- Skip, K1NKR
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Nov 94 08:50:27 EDT
- From: landisj@drager.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
- Subject: Routing Coax into house?
-
- In article <399iv7$doq@on-ramp.ior.com>, bobr@on-ramp.ior.com (Robert J. Raymond) writes:
- > I would like to obtain some suggestions on how best to route several coaxial
- > cables, rotator control cables, etc., into my new house. The thought of
- > drilling a hole in the wallboard and T111 makes me feel ill. Is there any
- > reasonable way around this. If not, ways to do it best would be appreciated.
- > Thanks.
- >
-
- Your gonna need to drill.
-
- I've cut thru the siding and the box joist with a hole saw and inserted a
- length of PVC pipe. Then glued on a 45 degree elbow pointing down at the
- outside, and another short length of PVC, so the water stays out. RTV around
- the PVC to the siding and the inside of the box joist. Run your cables. I then
- installed pipe caps, with slots cut to clear the cables, on both ends (not
- glued). This keeps out the rodents and the big bugs. You can also stuff a
- little fiberglas insulation into the inside pipe end to keep out the drafts.
-
- I have used 1" PVC, and it works ok for a few cables. You can use 1-1/2 for
- more/bigger. You can also install a dryer vent pipe and vent cap. Run your
- cables thru, and stuff it with fiberglass to make it weathertight.
-
- I also thought about mounting an outdoor box, and making up a plate that I
- could drill for bulkhead type N connectors. If you move, you could always
- change the cover plate and make it into an outdoor pewer receptacle.
-
- Some hams replace a window pane with a plexiglass sheet that they then drill
- feedthrus in. Some also make a false window sill, that is split and drilled for
- the cables.
-
- Joe - AA3GN
- --
- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
- landisj@drager.com - Ax25: AA3GN@WA3TSW.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 18:24:38 GMT
- From: tomb@lsid.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
- Subject: switching power supplies, why or why not?
-
- Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
-
- : Well, a PC supply only puts out a couple of amps of 12 volts, and
- : it *needs* a load on the 5 volt output or it'll go out of regulation.
- : So it's not really a practical option for most uses. Switching
- : supplies *in general* are efficient and light, but they are more
- : subject to generating RFI and more subject to being disturbed by
- : RF. That's why I prefer the old brute force designs like the
- : Astron.
-
- You can of course get switching supplies for just "12" volts, but there
- remain the RFI and IRF problems, and one other: switching supplies often
- don't like loads that vary a lot, like keyed or SSB-modulated HF rigs would
- be. A _properly_ designed and constructed supply should be fine, but don't
- expect to find that in a cheap supply.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Nov 1994 18:28:33 GMT
- From: tomrune@mac_inge.UCSD.EDU (Tom Rune Lauknes)
- Subject: The book:Low Band DXing by ON4UN
-
- Hi there, and thanks for reading this message.
-
- I am going to buy the book "Low Band DXing "by ON4UN, but I do not
- know what is the latest edition.
- I think someone mentioned February 94, but I am not sure.
-
- By the way, anyone knows how much ARRL takes for the book ?
-
- Pse reply direct to
- tomrune@mac_inge.itek.norut.no
-
- 73 and good DX
- 73 and good DX
- from LA1BJA/JW1BJA Tom
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
- d
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 7 Nov 1994 22:30:18 -0400
- From: btrembla@shark.stmarys.ca (Bernard D. Tremblay (Ben))
- Subject: Wanted: quality code practice audio
-
- In article <CynGJI.1t6@news.arco.com>, rll@apnissun1.corp.arco.com (Richard L. Lamb) says:
- [chopped - bdt]
- >I'm looking for a way to generate high quality Morse audio for
- >code practice
- If you want to practice, why not practice what you're likely to hear in the real world?
- > I've tried a couple of computer programs playing through both the computer speaker and a
- >Soundblaster, but neither method is of acceptable quality when recorded on tape.
- What's 'acceptable' quality? If you want real world, a fifth-generation cassette copy
- might be 'better' than something hi-fi.
- >
- >I'd like sine wave output with a smooth keying envelope.
- ... why? ...
- [ ... ]
- >Richard L. Lamb, Jr. N6UDD Opinions expressed are my own,
- [ ... ]
- Ben Tremblay VE1CBV
- p.s. I just finished 94SS/CW/QRP ... :-(
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:29:40 -0600
- From: "Terrance L. Jennings" <tjenn@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu>
- Subject: wanted control program for yaesu ft 747,757,767
-
- i'm looking for a CAT computer program for controlling one of
- these radios.
-
-
-
- thanks
- terrance
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Nov 1994 18:23:50 GMT
- From: jbs@duke.edu (Joe B. Simpson)
-
- References<1994Nov7.190647.5789@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <39m6nh$kji@news.duke.edu>, <39o700$5pc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
- Subject: Re: R.S. 2 Meter Amplifier???
-
- In article <39o700$5pc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> mconner@rain.atms.purdue.edu (Mark D. Conner) writes:
- >>>... Well, RS fails to sell a VHF/UHF
- >>>SWR meter, and there are no local "Ham" shops.
- >>
- >>Radio Shack most certainly DOES sell a VHF/UHF SWR meter. Check again.
- >
- >If you're certain they're selling one, can you post a catalog number?
- >My latest catalog doesn't show a VHF/UHF meter, and several local hams
- >and an RS salesman have told me they stopped selling them about a year
- >ago.
-
- Well, egg on MY face. You're right, it's been discontinued. You might call
- around to other RS stores, though - I saw one of these on the shelf of a local
- Rat Shack a couple of months ago. There might be a few still stocked here and
- there.
-
- -joe
- --
- "When personal freedom's being abused, | "I have an open mind, about everything
- you have to move to limit it." | it needs to be open about."
- |
- - U.S. President Bill Clinton, 1994 | - George Greene 9/13/94
-
- ------------------------------
-
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